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pedalsupreme
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  • Register:10/26/2008 10:43 PM

Date Posted:10/27/2008 1:46 PMCopy HTML

Scarlet stated......................

I hope things go well with your shoot with Reese.

FYI, please note that she cannot go by the name Reese on your site per a contract she signed with us.  She'll need to pick a new nickname.  If you want, I can send you a copy of her release form to show where she signed that she wouldn't use "Reese" on another pedal pumping site.

Thanks, and good luck!
ScarletI hope things go well with your shoot with Reese.

FYI, please note that she cannot go by the name Reese on your site per a contract she signed with us.  She'll need to pick a new nickname.  If you want, I can send you a copy of her release form to show where she signed that she wouldn't use "Reese" on another pedal pumping site.

Thanks, and good luck!
Scarlet

The copywite law states,

Titles, names, short phrases, and slogans are not protected by copyright law. Similarly, it is clear that copyright law does not protect simple product lettering or coloring, or the mere listing of product ingredients or contents. The exclusion of these types of materials is not an exception to copyright law, but merely an application of the requirements for copyright protection. To be protected by copyright, a work must contain at least a minimum amount of authorship in the form of original expression. Names, titles, and other short phrases are simply too minimal to meet these requirements. This is why you will often see books and movies sharing the same title.

Of course, brand names, slogans and phrases which are used in connection with a product or service may be protectable under trademark law (see the BitLaw discussion on trademarks for more information). In fact, a series of books all under the same title may even create trademark protection for that title.


You Guys had this same problem with Charlie at CCL with using the name "Stormy". Looks like he chose not to have a stir and dropped the "y". Now it would be different if I oped a food chain and called it "Joe McDonald", because that is a registared trademark. Also the picture I posted of Reese is also in no violation, because it is not for profit and the credits left in place. Take the as free advertisement. (Remmber the song "Kodachrome") Kodack quickly dismissed there case when the song went #1.

The contract you have giving you the rights to the name "Reese" will not hold up in court, as A personal noun can not be copyrited. You need a better lawyer. Also stipulations if not specified are also not binding. Was cicil action brought against Reese for breech of contract  when she failed to appear? Are you attempting to recover losses cause by her for failure to appear? Do you have a statute of limitation specified in the contract?

Now should I use that name, beeing you are a competative site and Scarlet gave me the idea, I would love to see how much of the little profit your site generates you will spend to take cilil action against me all to loose. Do you plan to send Reese at 10/99 as required by the IRS  for her work?


This is why Cory, Ron (PE), Charlie(CCL) as well as many others have gone by the way side and we stay #1. You young folks should be doing your home work on international copyrite law. Are your photo registred with the Library of Congress? PP is getting big in Germany I see. Some German might want to start a site and just take a few of your pictures

scarlet2 Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #1
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Re:scarlets message on copyrite

Date Posted:10/27/2008 5:51 PMCopy HTML

We never said we COPYRIGHTED her name; we didn't.  We are just stating what was signed and agreed upon with our models in the form they filled out - which was an agreement that they wouldn't use their alias/nickname from PTP on another pedal pumping site.  We aren't saying we OWN that name.  We are stating that our models signed something, agreeing they wouldn't use that name.

So perhaps before you state that I should do my homework, you should stop and reread what I wrote to you (where you would see there is NO mention of copyrighting anything).

Quite frankly, if you're that intent on using something that associates/relates to PTP, be my guest.  It'll be more advertising for us, and I have bigger things to worry over (like the possibility of having to put my 16 1/2 year old dachshund to sleep over the next few months and staying focused on my current goals and ambitions).  This is not a top priority of mine . . . so whatever.  I've moved on to other things I need to take care of.  I'm also not going to drag Reese into a bigger mess than what this has already been made into; she has enough to worry about herself and doesn't deserve to be treated in this manner.

I had hoped you were more professional, but I'm guessing that's not the case since you copy and paste private messages, messages in which I am polite and courtesy to you, simply making you aware of something a model had signed, asking you to respect that.  I sincerely wished you well with your site and future dealings with a past model of ours, and this is the respect and courtesy I get in return?

Geez, some people . . .
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crissycrankscars Share to: Facebook Twitter MSN linkedin google yahoo #2
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Re:scarlets message on copyrite

Date Posted:10/27/2008 11:22 PMCopy HTML

 I am sorry to hear about your Dachshund, I hope all is well.  Crissy and I love annimals and support some of the local shelters.
Send your letters of support to our troops!
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Re:scarlets message on copyrite

Date Posted:10/30/2008 3:06 PMCopy HTML

Here's what I find comical; Both Shish and Scarlet love this shit. They certainly won't allow it on THEIR site but they certainly don't respect any other pp forum enough to stop them from wallowing in it here.

If I were the webmaster here, I would ban them for life for bringing this down to their level and using another site with such disregard in perpetuating this. Notice how they have to have the final say and neither of them have the couth to direct it back to their site. They don’t want it there but are more than happy to do it here. Very respectful! They would rather police their site by banning, deleting or editing posts but have no qualms about bringing someone else’s forum down. Very classy you two.

As for the name Reese or any other former "user name", the fact remains that a piece paper with no teeth or legal backing has no value in a court of law. You are however able to suggest another site to not use the name but that would be about as far as you could go. A real lawyer may suggest to you that if you want to maintain these names as ptp property, that you spend the required money and gain the smarts to do so properly. Until then, suggesting to others not to use it is about as much as you have. Mark



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