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Date Posted:12/22/2015 3:32 PMCopy HTML

Since becoming a pedal pumping producer, I've been enlightened to the manifold and wide range of preferences that exist within our community. I've also gained further insight from reading comments on this forum and from the specific requests that we receive in custom scripts.

Pardon the prolix introduction to this simple question; lol but as it relates to preference, which aspect of cranking do you find increases your interest...how beautiful the woman is behind the wheel trying to get a car started, or a woman whose actions behind the wheel indicate that she always has car trouble? Please feel free to join the conversation. We embrace feedback for the purpose of improving our clips & expanding to reach the community in its entirety.

Thanks again & visit us at CAR WARS located at  http://clips4sale.com/80947

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Unless you're a woman trying to get her car started. lol


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Re:Which would you prefer??

Date Posted:12/22/2015 5:18 PMCopy HTML

Hi Staller,
first of all, congratulations for your store. I see it's always listed as the top store in the C4S pedal pumping category, so I hope it's doing well.

As you said, there is an incredible variation of preferences among the pedal pumping community. I only bought a few of your clips until now, since most of them are somewhat different from my specific preferences (but I think you're doing a great job, as witnessed by your store being at the top of the category).

Regarding my specific preferences, here they are in order (more or less) of importance:

1) the car: I only like to see carbureted cars from '60-'80. Although I'm from Europe, I also like american pony cars of the era, rather than the big boat cars. I like the sound of their starters and the sound of their engines when sputtering. Among your cars, I only like the Comet (but I like it very much!).

2) the behaviour of the engine: rather than pure cranking, I like the hard starting scenario, in which the engine sputters and teases the woman. Maybe it's cold or it's flooded. I also like very much repeated stallings of the engine. I'd buy such a video from your store. :)

3) the behaviour of the woman: rather than the beauty or physical appearence of the woman, I find much more important her behaviour. I like when they behave realistically, as if they really had (and are having) trouble with an old car. So probably they're a bit impatient, frustrated, carefully pumping, etc. I don't like when the "acting" in the video is very clear, for example if the woman is talking too much, or pumping in an unrealistic way, or acting unrealistically, etc. So the realism of the video is very important to me.

4) regarding camera angles, I tend to prefer still shoots or gentle panning, I find it adds to the realism and suspension of desbelief while watching the video.

5) the physical appearence of the woman paradoxically is maybe the least important aspect. Although I must admit I'm attracted when I see a woman I like, dressed as I like (miniskirt or tight trousers) in a cranking video.

My "benchmark" for pedal pumping video with american cars is Nicole from crankandpump.com. Her videos ticked all my boxes. :)


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Re:Which would you prefer??

Date Posted:12/22/2015 9:14 PMCopy HTML

 Hi Staller

A couple of weeks back, I purchased Melissa's Cranking Craze due to that particular collection having what I prefer in cranking clips (in no particular order):

- pretty girl
- short skirt (with nice legs)
- high-heel sandals (with nice feet)
- carbureted vintage-age vehicle
- floor-mounted gas pedal
- teasing/sputtering startup
- aggressive pumping, especially between cranking attempts
- pumping/holding down the gas pedal in response to the sound of the starter (not the repetitive doing-what-i-am-told acting)
- close-ups of the foot on gas pedal (both left and right sides)

I don't know if you still have the Riviera, but the view it offers makes it one of my favorite vehicles for cranking clips.

Have fun.



 

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Date Posted:12/23/2015 4:58 PMCopy HTML

Thanks a lot Murmur79!! Really appreciate your feedback and support.

I've come to believe that eras have a lot to do with preferences as well - what one has witnessed and been exposed to… For example, I grew up in the 80s and saw big American carbureted vehicles give women the ultimate trouble. I fell in love immediately. lol

We are definitely in agreement as it relates to a woman who knows what she's doing behind the wheel. It always helps when she's had previous trouble and knows how to respond to a stubborn car.

Many thanks passenger!! Happy that we could meet your preferences with Melissa...I agree with your list, all those components make for great pedal pumping. As for the Riviera, yes we still have it, and it's been breaking down a lot lately. lol Stay tuned… And many thanks to you both again for participating in the dialogue and for your support.
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Date Posted:12/23/2015 9:20 PMCopy HTML

 Excellent!   Actually I am hoping to perhaps see Miranda take a turn with the Riviera at some point.   I did not see any with her and that particular vehicle (unless I missed it).
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Re:Which would you prefer??

Date Posted:12/25/2015 9:51 PMCopy HTML

For me growing up in the 70's and 80's I would have to be the realism of the lady behind the wheel .

#1 , Growing up as a kid car trouble often happened when we were being chauffeured around to the sports events , swimming pool , school activities , etc and the moms were dressed in everyday cloths , jeans , shorts etc , tennis shoes , flats , keds , flip flops , sandals ,etc  That was real and when I saw a lot of pumping .

#2 The reaction of the lady to a car not starting very, very seldom was she passive they tend to get angry when the car will not start . Most would show it with there aggressive pumping and bouncing . There is nothing better than setting in the back seat and you can here the thump of the pedal hitting the floor .

#3 Attention to detail when a lady is going somewhere she always has her purse with her ??

#4 When and were the car trouble occurs . Does she come out of the groceries store load groceries get in and find the car will not start . She has groceries she needs to get home ?? What do you think her reaction would be ??

#5 Her surroundings For example she stops at the convenient store to get gas, cigarettes ,something to drink etc , and the car will not start her reaction the this is she embarrassed ? or does tune out her surroundings and focus on getting the car started and does not care who is watching .

#6 what does she do with the situation at hand ? is she determined to get the car started and will not give up . I know I am going to get slammed for this but here it is .. If she is a smoker she is stressed she is going to smoke .. Another words to make it as real as possible she really needs to believe she will be stranded and she does not want that .

Ok these are just a few thoughts of mine hope they help . I myself have filmed a couple ladies I have paid for doing pedal pumping videos and they came out ok not the best bye far I was just toying with the idea . I hope to be able to do something in the future to be able to share with the community . This is my idea of making vids as real as possible . I would explain to the lady what the video shoot is about . Then ask her if she has had any real experience with car trouble . Once I went over that I would explain that I need her to be as real as possible her reaction to the situation has to be real . Then I would tell her we are going to drive to the convenient store or where ever we are going I would have a switch wired in so I could kill the ignition wire power at my leisure . So if we went to the convenient store pulled up to the gas pumps she gets out pumps gas into the tank goes inside gets a drink , cigarettes or what ever comes back out I flip the switch that she does not know I have and guess what she has to perform now . Things like that are what makes it as real in a controlled situation as you can get it . You are trying to create a bad situation CAR TROUBLE but you have the control with the switch wired in to stop the situation at anytime . Me being a mechanic all my life this would be easy for me to do and really anyone to do . Hope this Helps 

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Date Posted:12/26/2015 2:47 PMCopy HTML

 Great post stxangler! I agree with a lot of what you said... The realism and plausibility of the scene is very important for me too... The attention to details, the reaction of the woman to her surroundings, etc. etc.

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Re:Which would you prefer??

Date Posted:12/27/2015 5:48 AMCopy HTML

my personal favorites as many of you know is women with there young kids in the car however that can only be found in Hollywood movies it seems but I think that blond chick the one with the Chrysler New Yorker Kimberley I think is her name I would totally buy one of you would have her doing one with a fake child in the car and having her being supernice to the child reassuring him she will get it started and have her to pump it in black leather boots and also have her use the phrase start baby please in there somewhere in a pitiful voice if you would do that I would totally buy it 
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Re:Which would you prefer??

Date Posted:12/27/2015 11:09 AMCopy HTML

Hi


Thank you very much for this topic

 

For myself, you will find following my preferences:

 

1/  and most important : the Car !  It must be carburated , preferently with manual choke and from the period 60's / 80's. It is very well when the engine is a bit sputtering and a battery a bit slow (a bit tired or too cold).

 

2/: the scenario : I prefer when there is a real scenario or story around the clip. After I love seeing the normal chronology : cranking , sputtering, stalling, cranking, reviing, driving  ....and I prefer when the girl wins against her piece of steel (so she starts) : endly we can see her driving stalling and sputtering a bit, but she is proud to succeed

 

3/ The cranking behaviour : I don't like women who are too much bouncing, shouting or pumping too hard; I prefer women a bit stressed, waiting for time between the attempts and pumping firmly but slowly and

 

4/: the weather : damp or cold with gloomy atmosphere, a bit dark on morning or evening with rain or ice on the windows of the car

 

5/ the clothes and behaviour of the woman : preferently with high heels (which we could hear on the pavement) but a bit realistic (for exemple boots with heels in winter); with gloves and warm clothes

 

6/ the women herself is perhaps the less important thing even I could prefer the matured women; seeing a girl with a specific touch (too fat, too little ...) could be interesting too

 

I bought some clips on CarWars site and I felicitate yourself ; the women in large cars are exciting myself because here in Europe the women are driving only little cars in the past ! My only regret is that some clips are a bit too repetitive without scenarios

 

Endly, I  often looks on Youtube on the clips with men starting their old cars : I am a bit fetish of abusing cars (in this case the car is the woman and the man tries to wake her !) and I could be interested to find clips with men and old cars ; I don't know if these sites exist, even Youtube is already fantastic


Thanks again

Old cars are like human people: hoarsed, caughing and lazy
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Re:Which would you prefer??

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I second what dampniat said regarding women cranking.

I also concur that the videoclips on CarWars are a bit repetitive, and sometimes without a scenario.

My advice is to film videoclips describing a realistic scenario from start to end. For example, we see the woman walking to her car, then patiently settling in the car, etc. Try to avoid having videoclips in which the woman is already cranking from the beginning. Again, my benchmark for this would be Nicole's clips from crankandpump, all of them looking very candid and realistic.

I know that there are a lot of people who are only interested in the visual part of the cranking/pedal pumping, but there are a lot others (like me, dampniat, stxangler, badmotor12) in which the realism of the scene and the attention to details plays an important role, alongside the cranking/pedal pumping aspect, so you could widen your audience if you take care of those details. :)

Fortunately, you have very nice models, good cars, and a good camera, so you have all the ingredients for it. :)
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 Thanks a lot for the feedback guys...Really appreciate it. :)
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 So staller would you please do a video like I menchoned man I'm serious if you will I'll buy it 
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Staller please remember you have the tools ( cars , ladies , etc ) attention to detail and keeping it real the little and big things matter and will bring you great success . You and I have talked on the phone for hours and texted back and forth and the thing I always said was keep it real and avoid the repetitive . I was so very close to ordering a custom from you several times but backed out because I was not sure you were quit ready yet for the attention to detail I look for when spending that kind of money . We all appreciate and thank you for what you do for us it is not easy we know but you have everything it takes to be one of the greats like Bill , Charlie , etc just please take what we have said here to heart and mind and you will flourish .Ty
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Date Posted:12/28/2015 1:09 AMCopy HTML

Yes, even the little details are important if one wants to aim at recreating a realistic and pseudo-candid cranking scenario.
Also, would you consider shooting some videos with a fixed camera? I know it entails some more work to do, because you have to find a good place where to put the camera, use some fixtures to hold the camera etc.
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Date Posted:12/29/2015 9:29 PMCopy HTML

Howdy, great topic for a great site and great effort on your part.  I've enjoyed reading the other comments and will attempt to avoid rehasing - but won't promise anything.  :)

Your original conversation starter asked about how beautiful the woman has to be or what actions indicate she always has car trouble.  I'd first have to give you lots of kudos for the effort that you've gone through so far.  I like your car selection for the most part and you've gone above and beyond for attractive ladies.  Maybe a little more clarity on those topics is good and I realize then we are starting to get into specific personal tastes, but nonetheless it is fun to write about my favorite topic. 

I'm a floor mounted, wider pedal, carburetor fan.  Being 50, my memories go back to the later 60's, 70's, and 80's - the last hurrah for carbs and rear wheel drive. For this guy the entire situation is what appeals so it encompasses the female driver, the car, and the environment.

Your car selection is plenty good.  I know you wanted a Ford Pinto (or something like that) early on and have gotten it.  I've purchased some clips for the other cars as they are more along my liking but that's not to say the Comet wouldn't sell a clip, depending on the woman and her treatment of the car. 

Your drivers have been very attractive.  As with all of us, some are more attractive to us individually than others but I think you've attempted to go across a wide audience.  From an appearance perspective with respect to pedal pumping - I start from the bottom up.  Feet, toes, ankles, calves, legs, and keep on going up.  I have to admit it is refreshing to see pretty faces. 

The drivers' reactions are important along with the behavior of the car.  Perhaps this is the hardest combination to solve for.  Also since its your car, money, and time you'd expect to get first dibs on the preferences.  Since you're asking us (me) then I'd share that although rapid, panic pumping is certainly part of the situation, I think that that tends to come along later in a breakdown rather than immediately.  You probably have to use some type of kill switch or fuel pump shutoff to induce the cranking and pumping.  I'd do the same if I had the opportunity to do so because you're on a timeline.  All things being equal and for the times when you're just in the parking lot and not on the road then I'd try to find a way to manipulate the carburetor.  There would be a couple of effects on the performance by doing this.  One would be that you could still control when the engine begins to start.  Another big effect is that you could then allow the driver to be free to try to react to the car starting and also to try different things.   We've all seen Nicole at CrankAndPump and know that she has been able to maintain control over the engine not starting with just her pumping method.  She's had a ton of time and I suspect that some of the cars were tuned to help her out.  The Cougar and towards the end, the Dodge seemed to be that way.  Why not have a few episodes where someone is under the hood helping out the lady in distress, talking back and forth?  Give them an extra bonus if they get the car started, make it a challenge with rewards. 

One thing leads to another.  One thing that has changed greatly since your initial videos is that the drivers now actually speak.  Its still scripted, or at least suggest what they are to say, but it is better to hear reactions.  Overall, I guess I would say that reactions of the driver are what does it for this fan.  I like to hear them reacting when the car doesn't start or stalls, asking what is wrong, what they need to do, and coaxing the car on verbally and with their body language.  You can mention once that you're late to work and that the car really needs to start, but I don't need 10 minutes of that. 

Some of the subtle types of things that ladies can do when trying to start the car run the gambit.  I don't know if you want a laundry list but I'll type stuff here. 

Varied Pumping
Varied Flooring
Heel on the floor
Hold to the floor and then really smash to the floor after cranking for several seconds
Them looking at their foot and gas pedal to see if they are pumping or holding the pedal
Them scanning the dashboard for some type of reaction as they are cranking
Every once in a while slightly shaking their heads as to say "no this isn't working"
Maybe cranking for 10 to 15 seconds every once in a while

This is getting long so I'll cut this short and can expand if you want later or we can talk on the phone or via email at luvfemfootongaspedal@yahoo.com

For what its worth, so far Kayla is my favorite (I've got a few downloads) but some of the things she's done seems to reflect that she's been around cars, or maybe trucks going offroad, in addition to being very physically attractive from toe to head.

Thanks and no matter what, please keep on doing what you're doing as you seem to be filling some of the space left behind by Nicole and her mechanic.



Pardon the prolix introduction to this simple question; lol but as it relates to preference, which aspect of cranking do you find increases your interest...how beautiful the woman is behind the wheel trying to get a car started, or a woman whose actions behind the wheel indicate that she always has car trouble? Please feel free to join the conversation. We embrace feedback for the purpose of improving our clips & expanding to reach the community in its entirety.

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Re:Which would you prefer??

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 Great post GasPedalGuy! +1 to your preferences!
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 Thanks a lot gaspedalguy for your response…namely for it being from a perspective & understanding of the breadth of nuance and peculiarities of our community. Though we at Car Wars open ourselves to scrutiny, there are some in the community who believe that filming clips that suit their personal preference(s) is the only answer to success.

Our goal at Car Wars is to gain access to insight to the cornucopia of various preferences...as pedal fans, we draw from our experiences, exposure & era.

Really appreciate you answering the question at hand in a way that allows us to assimilate information that could subsequently bode well for the community as a whole.

Thanks again.

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This was hinted at before but it's worth saying again.  I have maybe four or five of your clips and in my opinion, your big negative is camera work.  You leave the camera filming while you run from one position to the next, creating a bunch of useless material.  Use a tripod mounted camera, or perhaps more than one.  When I used one tripod, I would set up to film say through the driver's door.  I would then tell the model to stop and I would move the camera to view through the windshield or perhaps from the passenger's side.  Or put the tripod on the back seat/floor (uneven legs) and shoot over the shoulder.  Establish a time for each sequence, say two minutes.  If you use more than one tripod, make sure the each camera can't see the other one.  I do not have a recent clip so perhaps you have improved your camera work.

Another suggest is to buy a VW bug when you find yourself ready for another car.  Easy to fix and fairly inexpensive to repair.  Lot's of interest from folks in Europe with this car.

Most folks here know this but I own Pedal Supreme, which was filmed in the Augusta area, just a short ride from Atlanta.  From a very personal point of view, there is a market for tease clips which I think can only be done in the Comet. The model starts the car, looks into the camera and says "would you like to see me flood the car?" She turns the key off and pumps the crap out the gas pedal flooding the car before she tries to start it again. The key is to keep pumping the gas and not leave the key cranking for very long. 

Good luck.
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Hi Staller, I know I'm replying a lot in this thread, but again I think princevaliant gave you some very good advices. I concur with him about the camera work he advised. Having at least a fixed camera (maybe in addition to handheld) and improving the camera work (cutting the interluding sequences) would make the whole clip more realistic and candid-like. Pedalsupreme clips had a good camera work (and for my personal tastes, crankandpump clips were even better).

I bought some other clips from you in the last days, and if you follow some advices that have been given here, I'll probably buy some more in the future.

Don't take these as critiques, but as positive advices. I think you have a great selection of cars and women and the opportunity to do even better.

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Re:Which would you prefer??

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 Hey guys, thanks again for the feedback… for a bit of clarity - I'm a cranking fan first, and a producer second, and will never be closed to scrutiny or critiques. When I first started producing clips, I was once told to remain inconspicuous to avoid being burned out quickly. I try to remain open, accessible and active on forums because as a fan, I think it's cool to have access to producers/site owners. And to also get different perspectives on preferences.

Like many of you, as a fan there are certain things that I want to see in a clip… However, I understand that the producer of a given clip is for the most part shooting it from their perspective. I've been a cranking fan since the mid 90s. Over the years I've spoken to many fans, who've expressed distinctions in even the most infinitesimal details.

I personally think that's the beauty of the community. As a pedal pumping fan I was always hoping that my specific preference would be catered to… However, I knew that it was unlikely that all of my idiosyncrasies could be met. Which is also the beauty of custom clips. I've also learned that what is realistic to one fan may be unrealistic to another and vice versa, so I always choose to reserve any measure of judgment in that regard. If a man likes chicken and I like steak, neither of us are wrong… We both have identified personal penchants.

As an example, I always wanted to see women crank cars from every angle within a clip and not necessarily from a single angle. Just my preference. However, We receive custom requests that may specify a single angle… And also requests that love the way that we shoot. That's not to say that there is no room for improvement, because I'd be the first to admit that many things could use some measure of improvement.

It's always great to hear from other producers because they are exposed to both sides of the coin. Not that we don't love to hear from fans, but it's definitely a different perspective to experience both. Especially a producer who has experienced continued success.

It's ironic that princevaliant mentioned a VW as I was just looking at one of those today. Was also looking at a Fiat, but I don't want to give too much away. lol I really appreciate any level of support received from cranking fans and produces alike...I still find it fascinating after being a fan for so long that my contributions have been acceptable to the degree that they have.

All the best to everyone unless of course, you're a woman trying to get a car started. lol

Happy holidays guys.

Staller,
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 Having bought a subscription to your ClipsLive (from the Clips4Sale folks), I had the chance to view and review all of you vids, I'd say you've got the essentials covered (re materials, etc.).  That said, a few things stuck out that others have mentioned here already: 
- Need for steady camera work;
- Variety: there's an overabundance of the foot-pumping-pedal-while-trying-to-start-the-car scenes and camera angles. Personally, I'd really like to see more revving with camera views of the car from the driver's side and from behind the car, views of the exhaust racing out with the car rocking on its springs with each rev, etc.

Other than that, your cars are great and your models are hot; thus, I plan to subscribe again at some point.

Thanks for listening!
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Great post staller! You're right, I think every producer tends to shoot clips from their perspective (I'd do it too).
Maybe in some clips you could try some variations here and there in camera editing, scripting, etc. and see how well they are received.

I remember the real life stories you wrote in these forums, and I liked them a lot. They fitted very well with my personal preferences and fantasies.

If you'd ever get a Fiat (or another small-engine, manual choke european car) I'd buy A LOT of your clips. :) I suppose they're hard to find in the USA though?

Happy Holidays!!!

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Re:Which would you prefer??

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One thing I've learned as an adult is that patience is invaluable. Perhaps it may have gone unnoticed, but Car Wars started to increase the frequency with which it posted broken-down smokers. Lol I'm not a smoker and have no desire to inhale secondhand smoke, but because we knew that there were fans that enjoy smoking & cranking, we ventured to increase the smokers in our lineup. However, after being spoken so pejoratively of here - and being told how tawdry our clips are, perhaps it's a better idea to let things alone.

I started producing clips for two reasons… First, I wanted to satiate my specific interest - and too see how many others had a similar or the same interest. Second, after being a fan for so long I wanted to contribute to the community from which I'd consumed material for eons. Lol It's never been about being number one or financial gain.

I visit this forum as a fan, to read & share stories... and as a producer, to get a better sense of what other fans whose interests/experiences may vary from my own would like to see. Never knew that it could get to be so contentious & personal. I have great respect for any producer who invests time and funds to produce material. Whether I like it or not, is immaterial.

As a consumer of pedal pumping (which I still am), I get to choose what/whose material I consume. That said, I'm not showing up to a community forum posting about who's not doing what I like. If it's not my preference, then I just simply move on.

Appears to be deleted now, but there was a user a short time ago who posted a preference about girls bouncing with conspicuous nipples.  And with a very open and amicable tone. Though not addressed to us, I would've gladly attempted to bring that to fruition. Life has taught me that having a friendly disposition gets you a lot more of what you want than having an adversarial one. Conversely, it may have taught others differently. :)
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Re:Which would you prefer??

Date Posted:02/02/2016 3:55 AMCopy HTML

"As a consumer of pedal pumping (which I still am), I get to choose what/whose material I consume. That said, I'm not showing up to a community forum posting about who's not doing what I like. If it's not my preference, then I just simply move on."


 Staller, you started this thread, as well as others, supposedly to get ideas and opinions about guys preferences in the PP community. In reality, you started this thread, as well as others, to advertise and promote your site. Thats fine, advertising and marketing are a big part of everything we watch, read and listen to in today's world. But you can't open up a bunch of different threads and jump into other threads asking for ideas and opinions when, by your own admission, you film what you want to see based on your memories and preferences, and then whine about it when you get honest and legitimate criticism. I'm not aware of anyone starting a thread attacking your site, if there is please point it out to me, otherwise, stop posting your thinly veiled promo threads and complaining when not everyone thinks your content is the best around.

I have read most of the comments in threads that you are involved in, and I haven't seen anyone personally attacking you. I certainly have gone out of my way to credit you for making the commitment to run a PP site. I'm sorry, but I don't like your clips for reasons I have stated in other threads. That's my opinion, and this is a forum about opinions, if you look around you will see criticisms of almost every other pp site at one time or another, so you're hardly being singled out. Honestly, I don't care if you post here, and I don't care if you continue your site or not, both decisions are yours to make and it makes zero difference to me what you decide to do. But please stop whining about how you are being criticized here, its tedious, do your thing and have fun and I hope you make some money.  
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Re:Which would you prefer??

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I agree it's great to have a beautiful women behind the wheel,the more beautiful the better when it comes to Pedal Pumping Fetish Clips but may not be what you see in reality these days on the street lol! But I think the actions and how emotional they get when having car trouble is what makes the Pedal Pumping Fetish so great and interesting. Some women react different to car trouble than others,especially if they have a history of it, meaning they have a routine they must follow and know that their vehicle is not dependable and they must put in work to make it work in order to be a dependable,reliable,daily driver,rather than a women who is having unexpected car trouble for the first time. It also depends on what kind of vehicle they are driving whether it is a new fuel injected or an old school carbureted which are known to have more issues,being cold blooded than the newer vehicles if they are not kept up and serviced on a regular basis. Some women will fight to get their car started and will not give up until the starter literally heats up and burns out or until the battery goes completely dead,and some will crank for a few minutes and quit realizing there is no need to crank anymore putting in effort,and that there vehicle is not going to start and they rather not make the issue any worse until it is inspected or serviced. I like a women who puts up the fight in getting her vehicle working,and gets emotional over it,the longer the better indeed!and the longer duration of these clips,the more money you can charge and make off of them lol
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