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AnthraXXX
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Date Posted:06/04/2017 11:44 PMCopy HTML

As someone born in 1993, I've seen very limited real life cranking action. Being born in the 60s-70s would be paradise. Could some of you help me picture how'd it exactly be like?
>How frequently I'd see PP cranking action.
>How frequently were Carburetors such as Renault/volvo/fiat (or similar small cars- I like these better, more cranky sputtery and a great teasingly sounding motor) be seen compared to to camaro/ impala/ muscle/ boat steel cars in general.
>Would there be cranking in night clubs/ night parties and what kind of / how revealing outfits and footwear would women be wearing at that time.
>How common was hard revving back in the day as opposed to light revving in the morning or after a hardstart cranking situation. (Around 3.5-4k rpm and over)

I noticed for me atleast, all this excitement from this fetish comes from the possibility of hard revving, its all an interrelated-connected chain of possible events. If there's no revving taking place after cranking, the whole cranking PP scenario suddenly means nothing. It would be not much different than starting a boat or lawn mover (and hence not a fetish).

Honestly, I wish if there's an after life (life after death), I can fulfill this fantasy of living in a world dated back to the 60-70's :-)
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Re:I wish I was born in the 1960-70's

Date Posted:06/05/2017 7:41 AMCopy HTML

Hi, I can imagine that you would like to be born in the 60ies or 70ies. I was born in 1970 in Germany and grew up with carbureted cars, often with choke.
As I wrote in some stories in the coilwire section I had the most experieces with my mother, trying to stat her car. In the 70ies and as long as the old cars were on the streets it was easy to experiece hard starting and cranking. It was possible in the neighbourhoods, at parking lots at malls, parking spaces at the beach or public outdoor pools etc.. It was often possible to catch cranking moments. The goal was when the women wasn't able to start the car at all. During this time also the most family cars had chokes and were often the only cars in the house. A random exampl: I was waiting for my school bus as a mother brought her child with her Renault (I think it was a Renault 9). The car sputtered and stalled as she was talking to her child. Now the show begun and as my bus drove away she still sat there trying to restart her car. During these days the women were often dressed with skirts and pantyhose, heels and if you had luck als with slides or mules. I also experienced it later on as my girlfriend, later my wife, drove such cars like VW Polo. Golf Mk I or Seat Marbella(same like Fiat Panda). And you are right after cranking and stating the engine a kind of revving must be to clear out the engine and avoid another stalling. But often the car stalled again and the women got panic and flooded the engines. So to restart was very difficult.
Unfortunaly this time has gone due to the law agaist pollution. So all the old cars without injection are gone now, a couple may have survived....
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Re:I wish I was born in the 1960-70's

Date Posted:06/07/2017 3:46 AMCopy HTML

Reply to jenso23 (06/05/2017 1:41 AM)

Hi, I can imagine that you would like to be born in the 60ies or 70ies. I was born in 1970 in Germany and grew up with carbureted cars, often with choke.
As I wrote in some stories in the coilwire section I had the most experieces with my mother, trying to stat her car. In the 70ies and as long as the old cars were on the streets it was easy to experiece hard starting and cranking. It was possible in the neighbourhoods, at parking lots at malls, parking spaces at the beach or public outdoor pools etc.. It was often possible to catch cranking moments. The goal was when the women wasn't able to start the car at all. During this time also the most family cars had chokes and were often the only cars in the house. A random exampl: I was waiting for my school bus as a mother brought her child with her Renault (I think it was a Renault 9). The car sputtered and stalled as she was talking to her child. Now the show begun and as my bus drove away she still sat there trying to restart her car. During these days the women were often dressed with skirts and pantyhose, heels and if you had luck als with slides or mules. I also experienced it later on as my girlfriend, later my wife, drove such cars like VW Polo. Golf Mk I or Seat Marbella(same like Fiat Panda). And you are right after cranking and stating the engine a kind of revving must be to clear out the engine and avoid another stalling. But often the car stalled again and the women got panic and flooded the engines. So to restart was very difficult.
Unfortunaly this time has gone due to the law agaist pollution. So all the old cars without injection are gone now, a couple may have survived....

Thank you for your reply! How hard did she rev the car after cranking (rough  guess in rpm) ?
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Re:I wish I was born in the 1960-70's

Date Posted:06/08/2017 8:53 PMCopy HTML

My mother revved the car much harder than my wife to clear it out. So sometimes she lost the fight and the car stalled again. Then it was difficult to restart it again.
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Date Posted:07/06/2017 4:50 PMCopy HTML

Hi,

Born in 1973, I grew up in the Netherlands and had the similar experiences as Jenso23.

The street were I lived from the late 70s and 80s was a typical Dutch street with recent one family houses and some buildings with flats. There were several parking lots as not every house or flat had its own parking space. 

Especially the parking lot of the apartment buildings was interesting as some young (single) ladies lived there, they would typically wear short skirts or dresses with their lovely legs and covered by pantyhoses and nice high heels. The situations I liked most were the difficult cold starts in the morning, Dutch mornings were cold and damp. After several attempts the engines would start and some moderate revving would follow.

I could hear the small 2 or 4 cylinder engines crank energetically when I would ride my bike to school. A bike has the advantage to see a lady's legs while pumping the accelerator and also to see her manipulate the choke! Their hands would twist the ignition key nervously. Best examples would be the Fiat 500 and Citroen 2cv as the engines would never start immediately after the first attempt. Other interesting examples would be the Austin mini 850 of a neighbour, it was a beautiful little green car buy it gave her a lot of trouble starting it in the morning.

Some other memories: a very elegant lady with a strict dress code at her job apparently, as she always wore high heels and a secretary outfit with above the knees skirt: it seemed almost impossible for her to start up her 70s VW Bug. She changed it for a Chevy Van running on natural gas, what a cranking noise that beast made as very very difficult to start.
 
A lot of other cranking situations presented themselves in my home town. 

I also remember a conversation between two lady teacher when I was about 10 years old, the lady who drove a 1980 Renault 5 spoke about the stalling issues she experienced the same morning when she drove to school. Her car had stalled at the traffic light and was very difficult to start up again, she needed a lot of tries: you will understand that I hung around them to hear more details. 

The Renault 5 Supercinq could be very difficult to start too. I remember a situation of the sister of a friend's sister who was about 30 years old that time, I was about 18. We had a drink together with her boyfriend, as we had drunk a couple of beers she proposed to drive. She was wearing a short skirt with her bare legs and high heels, luckily the little blue Supercinq was a bastard to start even as the weather was nice and warm. It took about 6 tries to have the engine catch with some nice revving to clear it, I think she used the choke. 

Hope this will give you a better idea how it was to grow up in these golden cranking years! These were very inspiring to me!



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Re:I wish I was born in the 1960-70's

Date Posted:07/06/2017 11:01 PMCopy HTML

Great experiences Stalling! You were very lucky to witness them. Would love to hear more.
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Date Posted:07/08/2017 2:22 PMCopy HTML

Hi Murmur79,
Other memories include "sexy" cars but the ladies were regular family mothers, not really dressed to go for to the office as often they were taking care of children and their home.

  • Peugeot 309, driven by a not so young lady, could be very difficult to start and needed a lot of attempts;
  • Peugeot 305 Break, as above very difficult to start with a lot of cranking, love the Peugeot starter sound!;
  • Simca 1000, driven by hippie mother, long hair but no hippie dress!! Their car was very difficult to start and it made a lot of noise when cranked (beautiful cranking noise);
  • Toyota Tercel late 70s: lady parked the car for a few hours in the winter, I guess she forgot to use the choke as it appeared very difficult to start;
  • Citroen XM running on LPG/PGL: lady dressed to go to the office with skirt and high heels, engine was giving no sign of life, multiple attempts when I passed with my bike;
  • Volvo 240 break running on LPG/GPL; brand new car a lot of cranking I guess there was an issue with the GAS/GPL switch, lady looking very nervous;
  • Seat (same as Fiat 127), very elegant lady in secretary outfit but her car would always start at first try;
  • Skoda 120; almost new car, the family mother was never able to start it in one try, problem with choke cable apparently;
  • Lancia Y10 turbo with carburetor choke didn't work, the female colleague who owned it proposed me to drive together to the airport for our early morning shift. She was dressed in the company wear with heels, she was able to start the engine after one long try, a lot of revving to keep the engine running, guess she had a lot of experience starting the car.
More to follow if I can recall these memories.

Enjoy your week-end,

Stalling

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Date Posted:07/08/2017 6:33 PMCopy HTML

Thank you stalling for recapping your experiences...plz do mention the approximate rpm you think in situations where revving happened. Could you guess a rough rpm and duration of revving of the two events where your 

1) sister's friend after drinking attempted to start the r5 supercing after 6 tries and 2) your colleague proposed to drive the y10 to the airport and you mention she did lot of revving 

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Date Posted:07/22/2017 6:28 AMCopy HTML

Hi,
I thought I replied already but something went wrong I think. They both revved at max 3000 rpm.
Enjoy your weekend!
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Re:I wish I was born in the 1960-70's

Date Posted:07/23/2017 3:50 PMCopy HTML

Reply to Stalling (07/22/2017 12:28 AM)

Hi,
I thought I replied already but something went wrong I think. They both revved at max 3000 rpm.
Enjoy your weekend!

Thanks for the reply and if possible how long do you think they revved for? (Or kept a constant rpm for how long in neutral gear)
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Date Posted:07/24/2017 7:32 PMCopy HTML

Hi,
No steady revving but immediate leaving with both cars, engines were a bit stubborn though.

Cheers
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Re:I wish I was born in the 1960-70's

Date Posted:09/20/2017 3:58 PMCopy HTML

Stalling and cranking were just part of driving a car in the 60's and 70's. Perhaps the biggest indicator of the difference between then and now is that, these days, if a car doesn't start within a couple seconds of cranking, we know something's wrong. Back then, it was just assumed that a car might take a long crank or two to start. I remember one neighbor had a 50's era Nash Rambler that always took a long time to start. On several occasions my parents would be talking to the man or woman as the car was cranking away, and no one seemed to notice. It was just the way things were. And as I mentioned elsewhere on this forum, one needed only to walk across a mall parking lot to hear at least one or two cars struggling to start.

Some of my favorite memories:

1. Grade school. I was standing at a crosswalk a block away from the school, with a crossing guard and a line of cars exiting the school after dropping off kids. A woman in a 50's vintage Mercedes rolled up to the crosswalk, a young teenage girl in the passenger seat, and her car stalled with a line of cars behind her. She started cranking, then pumping, but the car wouldn't start. The teenage girl looked really nervous as she alternated between watching the instrument panel for signs of life, and looking anxiously at her cranking pumping mother. Unfortunately I had to move on to get to school so I didn't see if she ever got it re-started.

2. A neighbor with a really hot teenage girl and a Rambler Ambassador circa 1965. It was raining and I was in the kitchen, which opened into the carport, The girl got in to the car and started cranking and cranking, with no sign of starting. My friend didn't seem to notice, but I could not keep my mind on the conversation as the girl cranked. I tried to get a look at her, but it was difficult. She must have cranked for ten or fifteen minutes before she gave up.

3. Another friend in middle school, whose parents had a Chevelle station wagon of early 70's vintage, and also an older daughter who was average looking. It was raining lightly and the girl was trying to get the Chevelle started. She cranked several times, until the car sputtered to life and she revved the engine. But as soon as she put it in reverse it stalled, and the whole process started again. My friend, who'd offered me a ride to school, said, "As soon as my sister gets the car started and drops off my brother, she'll give us a ride to school." After a half dozen sets of several long cranks, then revving, then stalling, she got the car started for good and was on her way. 

4. A neighbor with an Olds Cutlass circa 1966. Usually the car started without issues, but one day the mom, who was very young, had problems starting it. The key on this model was at the top of the dashboard, so I could see her turning it. The car cranked and sputtered and stalled, with each failure to start leading to an ever longer series of cranks before the engine stumbled and died. She certainly pumped, but what I remember most was her hand on the key, shaking it as if that might encourage the engine to turn over. Her arm was rocking back and forth on the key as she pumped, her lips pursed into a tight, nervous pout as she cranked away. After perhaps five minutes of this, the car finally rumbled to life, black smoke pouring out of the exhaust as the engine revved. The mom just kept goosing it for perhaps another five minutes before putting it in gear and heading off. 

5. And I can't even count all the sightings I had of Dodge vans struggling to start. By the mid-70's Chrysler cars were so notorious for hard starting that it was almost routine to hear a Dodge van cranking for a good twenty or thirty seconds, the engine turning faster and faster until it sputtered into life, or stalled again with the long descending whine of the tired starter motor coming to rest. My sister had a Dodge van of this era, and though I never visited her when she had it, she once told me it was a totally unacceptable car, mentioning how hard it was to start. (Honestly, I can't imagine how Chrysler let this issue go on for so long, especially when they gave their vehicles such a loud, distinctive sound to the starter: It always sounded painful, even when the car started fairly quickly. It was as if someone at Chrysler had a cranking fetish.) 


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